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This is a response I made to an OPF member called NoAAUK. He posted a blog about Christianity, Paganism, and AA trying to persuade OPF members to stop ganging up on me because of my Christian beliefs. I wrote...
This is a response I made to an OPF member called NoAAUK. He posted a blog about Christianity, Paganism, and AA trying to persuade OPF members to stop ganging up on me because of my Christian beliefs. I wrote...
Hi NoAAUK,Orange (the forum owner) told me that he discourages the attacking of any individual by other members just because they have different opinions. But the folks you are talking to (or about) don't care about the forum owner's wishes. They pretend to care about Orange but they do this and also continue to plead with him, from time to time, to ban me knowing how strongly he feels about free speech. He even told them that freedom of speech is his religion, the thing he has faith in.
So in a sense, they have even ganged up on him to try to pressure him into acting against one of his religious beliefs, against his own convictions. So they only care about their own beliefs and feelings. In other words, they are very inconsiderate of others except those who agree with their most valued beliefs.
They know what the primary purpose of this website is, as far as you and Orange are concerned, but they have added another primary purpose - destroying or weakening people's faith in God and the Bible. You are right about them behaving like the steppers by "all ganging up on an individual who didn't speak their council approved group talk." They are against AA doing the same thing they are doing.
You say that you don't think you have changed your beliefs, just modified them somewhat. I see it differently but the point you and I are making is that there is no excuse to attack another member because they don't agree with your religious beliefs. They don't want to "agree to disagree without being disagreeable." Why? Because that goes against what they are - intolerant religious bigots.
You are also right about the Steppism "God" using lies to recruit others into the stepper cult. I caught a "Christian" doing this once and told him it was wrong. He was trying to win so-called alcoholics and so-called addicts to Christ by telling them "Only Christ can break your habit, whatever it is."
So in a sense, they have even ganged up on him to try to pressure him into acting against one of his religious beliefs, against his own convictions. So they only care about their own beliefs and feelings. In other words, they are very inconsiderate of others except those who agree with their most valued beliefs.
They know what the primary purpose of this website is, as far as you and Orange are concerned, but they have added another primary purpose - destroying or weakening people's faith in God and the Bible. You are right about them behaving like the steppers by "all ganging up on an individual who didn't speak their council approved group talk." They are against AA doing the same thing they are doing.
You say that you don't think you have changed your beliefs, just modified them somewhat. I see it differently but the point you and I are making is that there is no excuse to attack another member because they don't agree with your religious beliefs. They don't want to "agree to disagree without being disagreeable." Why? Because that goes against what they are - intolerant religious bigots.
You are also right about the Steppism "God" using lies to recruit others into the stepper cult. I caught a "Christian" doing this once and told him it was wrong. He was trying to win so-called alcoholics and so-called addicts to Christ by telling them "Only Christ can break your habit, whatever it is."
He may have been just blindly parroting what he had heard from someone else. Nevertheless, it was still wrong. Deception is not God's way of getting others to believe. So, as you can see, I'm strongly against using deception to win others to our beliefs.
But Soberman has clearly done that by pretending like he has proven that God does not exist. At least two of the members who are attacking me admitted that they knew I was right about it being impossible to prove any such thing, and why. And the other members can see that what I have pointed out about this is an indisputable fact.
However, unlike me, they will not say anything to anyone of their group who uses this kind of deception to recruit people into atheism. As long as this lie suits their agenda they have no problem with Soberman continuing to tell it. And it's not that Soberman just made a mistake, he is lying on purpose because he has been shown the reason why it is impossible to do what he pretends to be able to do.
This tells me that these Jim-Battle-attacking members do not care about honesty and fairness, yet they twist information to try to make ME appear dishonest and dangerous. Ask them about Soberman's lie and see what they say about it. I guarantee you that, if they say anything at all, they won't admit that he is lying. They either get silent about things like this or start lying to cover it up.
But Soberman has clearly done that by pretending like he has proven that God does not exist. At least two of the members who are attacking me admitted that they knew I was right about it being impossible to prove any such thing, and why. And the other members can see that what I have pointed out about this is an indisputable fact.
However, unlike me, they will not say anything to anyone of their group who uses this kind of deception to recruit people into atheism. As long as this lie suits their agenda they have no problem with Soberman continuing to tell it. And it's not that Soberman just made a mistake, he is lying on purpose because he has been shown the reason why it is impossible to do what he pretends to be able to do.
This tells me that these Jim-Battle-attacking members do not care about honesty and fairness, yet they twist information to try to make ME appear dishonest and dangerous. Ask them about Soberman's lie and see what they say about it. I guarantee you that, if they say anything at all, they won't admit that he is lying. They either get silent about things like this or start lying to cover it up.
I'm just telling you this to help you see what kind of people you are trying to reason with. They are NOT reasonable when it comes to tolerating basic things that millions of Christians believe and that the Bible clearly teaches.
So you can show them the difference between Steppism, Christianity, and Paganism all you want, but they are not going to change their minds about attacking people who have certain beliefs that are different from their own. They are determined to make this forum what they want it to be, not what it was created to be.
So you can show them the difference between Steppism, Christianity, and Paganism all you want, but they are not going to change their minds about attacking people who have certain beliefs that are different from their own. They are determined to make this forum what they want it to be, not what it was created to be.
So I will continue to expose what they are doing and defend the Christian religion. It needs to be done as long as they insist on using this forum to promote an anti-God, anti-religion, anti-Christianity agenda.
I don't agree with you that "Christianity does change over time". Since the Word of God does not change, true Christianity does not change. Everything the Lord has revealed in His Word still holds true today.
I don't agree with you that "Christianity does change over time". Since the Word of God does not change, true Christianity does not change. Everything the Lord has revealed in His Word still holds true today.
So there is no reason for Christianity to change just because the number of people who hate it is increasing. But although you and I don't agree on some major issues, we don't attack one another. Why? Because we are not intolerant religious bigots like they are.
They want only views they approve of to be expressed on this forum although it is a free speech forum. In other words, they want injustice and yet they don't like the injustice of Drug Courts. That says a lot about the kind of people they are.
They want only views they approve of to be expressed on this forum although it is a free speech forum. In other words, they want injustice and yet they don't like the injustice of Drug Courts. That says a lot about the kind of people they are.
Jim Battle
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I suggest to whoever is reading this that you think honestly about the evidence being presented to you, instead of listening to people who lie because they don't like the Bible. Why? Because when your body dies you are going somewhere, and you will be there forever. Jesus Christ proved that He was God and told us where we would end up if we reject what He offers (If you click the "what He offers" link you must scroll down the page a bit to read the post titled "What Does Jesus Offer?)".
Watch "Beware Of The Program!" My comic book slideshow on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aaww2vh1nKw
Watch my TV program titled "Alcoholics Anonymous Is Dangerous!"
Part 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBe4f95BSP0
Part 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAwGBgUJyQs
Part 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYA2CdU1Gsg
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